The pros and cons of sacking Thomas Tuchel

Yes, you're so right, the main thing to come out of the game was that it absolutely proved that Thomas Tuchel got the semi final catastrophically wrong. That rightly angers the players and the fans. But what really angers the fans is that Tuchel now says he has NO REGRETS, and has the arrogance to blame the players DNA! That is NOT acceptable, because IT IS in our DNA to have brilliant wingers like Saka and Rashford beat defenders and send in brilliant crosses for the strikers! THAT is part of our DNA, which Tuchel rejected at the end of the semi-final! On Saturday, the players played for pride, in spite of Tuchel's failure. They beat the Tournament favourites, fair and square, and produced one of the greatest World Cup matches of all time.🙂

He gets you best position in over 60years and still calling for his head!! Not even 2nd try.. or third try!!
Its like the 60years with a couple golden generations could even get 3rd place now this team gets better and instead of learning from mistakes and improving on them, you’re calling for his head!!. The analyst guy i love his analysis but gadammn if they win the Euros and nations cup, you'll be in the same camp as the bloke who said we should drop Bellingham

Tuchell did say it’s his fault. He said he takes full responsibility.

The entitlement of England "fans" and "experts" is off the charts.
Unbelievable.
You won NOTHING in 60 years, NOTHING, and now you act basically disgusted at making 3rd place.

The fact that 3rd place is the best WC finish in 60 years says it all about England. England is not a European powerhouse. In fact England are at Croatia's level. Even Croatia got 2nd place in 2018. If England have reached WC final as easy as France or Argentina or Spain, there is nothing to lose about throwing away a chance to reach a final. England tried to protect the lead because if they hadnt, it would be regretable if the chance had gone. For France, Spain or Argentina reaching a WC semi is not an achievement , it's a minimum expectation. England have reached 11 WC quarter-final but only managed 4 semis and 1 final. The quality is not there. England have never won a knockout/deciding match against bigger teams except today that they won over France.

Expectations have lead to a bit more negativity than necessary. Take the positives too. When Tuchel first picked the squad no one thought they’d be good enough to make 3rd place. Crushing lost to Arg but they’ve won it in recent times whilst Eng haven’t.

Problem is peoples expectations are set to high. My expectation is to finish at least in Semi's as results show that previously. My want and hope is to win the world cup.

The media (these clowns included) always get so touchy when a manager pushes back on them.

I have been following England since 1982, they only have a good run in international football after Southgate took over till now. The issue is English expectations and its media, England now can be considered as a serious contender in international football but as TT said there's a small gap with Spain, France and Argentina. TT may have made calls that didn't lead to the desired result but give him a chance as he is a manager with strong conviction. Let's see what he will do in Euro Nation League.

Pep? Where has he won without backing with loads of money and world class talents. In club football, you can go and buy any player, in nations football, that option does not exist. A true assessment of Pep - is the number of English players he was able to propel upwards in Man city. None. That is what he can achieve with the 3 lions.

Absolute proof that ridiculous line ups ie 4,2,3,1 need to stop.

Mr Tuchel did say he takes full responsibility multiple times. Period

18:50: Scoggins saying that Tuchel should have apologised: it isn't a German trait to instantly apologise - this is what an Englishman would do, but Tuchel isn't English. Tuchel laid down his thinking and explained why he had decided to do what and it didn't work - he simply does not engage in the English blame game and culture of apologising, he does not even say 'unfortunately', because he's not English, he's German. Call Germans rude, or unapologetic or stubborn, but that's where cultures differ and the bottom line is that Tuchel acted in good faith.

really!!! playing Argentina vs playing France, which was the game with NO defence or pressure & saying all this about why Saka should've played!?

England was only 6 mins + added time away from the world cup final. The tactics is flawed because it did not work out well in the end. Football can steer up emotion, unfortunately for the losing side, its the wrong emotions. But there are a lot of positives from this tournament for England. Chin up guys, the future is bright !!!

45 other Teams would give their right arms for that Bronze.

No matter what we think , this is still a step forward. We can now easily justify our top 4 world ranking and are widely regarded as one of the best teams in the world , how often have we been able to say that in the last 50 odd years ? Let's get real and build on this improvement.

This is the problem about England. You think you are the best to start with. The only thing you need is a decent average manager and voila England becomes world champions. Thus you become disappointed every time, and you never find anything positive to build on for the future.

But European football needs magicians on the pitch to make that boring football system effective.

Takes a lot of courage and maturity to publicly admit a mistake. To take full ownership. Surprising to me that some world-class managers aren‘t able to do that yet.